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Thanks for your collaboration on Scottish suffragettes, here's to more activities in the future! Karen
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update on Henria Leech Williams
@IanTheArchivist
Hope that you are ok with my amendments to this article: added image and more text on Annie's Arboretum (including that Annie Kenney dedicated the tree to 'Henriette' (sic) Williams which was in the reference sited) and corrected my own typo in table of Annie's Arboretum added at end. And also I then amended the section on your discoveries - third person, surname neutral voice, and shortened text. As we are not meant to write about our own activities on wikipedia, I do hope you will take this as a positive encouragement of all that you have done on identifying a notable suffragette almost forgotten, and on this article.
Kaybeesquared (talk) 11:22, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
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| Thanks to Ian and all those mentioned who contributed to research and article Kaybeesquared (talk) 11:23, 23 September 2020 (UTC) |
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| Although you are not on the editing side, Huge Thanks are due to you for the archival research for adding women to Wikipedia especially recently for Mary Morris (doctor) and Jessie M. Soga. Enjoy a whirling barnstar of THANKS Kaybeesquared (talk) 16:35, 10 March 2021 (UTC) and Victuallers (talk) 11:24, 11 March 2021 (UTC) |
Is there a picture of Mary in the Bath Chronicle? If it doesnt mention the photographer then we could use it.... umm thinks - Iwonder, Did the Blathwayts garden ever make the press with pics? Victuallers (talk) 11:26, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
Victuallers (talk and IanTheArchivist (talk) asked me to reply:
There is a nice close-up picture in the Bath Chronicle which has no mention of photographer see under the heading OBITUARY here [1] it same edition different page as ref no 35 on her article or see email off-wiki. Ian has offered to search BNA re Blathwayts?
Thanks for the DYK nomination! Kaybeesquared (talk) 13:13, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
- Cannot see the image but if it can be digitised then it can be loaded into commons. The license needs to be this template, ((PD-UK-unknown)). but replace (( with double curly brackets. Or ping me and I'll load it. nice work.Victuallers (talk) 14:25, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
DYK for Mary Morris (doctor)
On 26 March 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mary Morris (doctor), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that when the Conservative Mary Morris claimed to "never to have been a militant suffragette", the audience laughed? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mary Morris (doctor). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Mary Morris (doctor)), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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| Thanks Ian for your original work on Mary Morris (doctor) now 26 March 2021 DYK. Well done and much appreciated finding out about her politics and more. Kaybeesquared (talk) 16:05, 26 March 2021 (UTC) |
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for interest - criminal biography category
Just noted today that Jessie Kenney was categorised in WikiProject Criminal Biography https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Jessie_Kenney&diff=next&oldid=1006334363
Looking at this category there is not a section for political prisoners treated as criminals or UK suffragettes specifically?
But if Jessie Kenney is categorised that way, should her family and the rest of the Eagle House (suffragette's rest) suffragettes or the Holloway brooch and Hunger Strike Medal recipients be in this category too?
For consistency and connecting with the treatment of women's suffrage prisoners??
I have contacted Ewan and Roger on-wiki and wait their reply but it may assist future article on Prisoner Divisions. Kaybeesquared (talk) 11:03, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Edith Sutton date of joining Labour party query?
Added the latest suggested citation to the Edith Sutton talk page which supports Option 3 1925 SeeTalk:Edith Sutton. Kaybeesquared (talk) 09:21, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
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| For your excellent contributions which added to Charlotte Despard. This came to me from User:BulgeUwU - and is due to you for the continuing quality research! Kaybeesquared (talk) 12:59, 20 May 2021 (UTC) |
Another one is coming soon...for your excellent articles on Women in Red and your collaboration on research on great sources for notable Scottish women! Kaybeesquared (talk) 12:59, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
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Thanks for all your work on Hattie Mahood article - getting materials from local history team and pulling it all together so quickly... have a cupcake to celebrate! Kaybeesquared (talk) 19:49, 20 May 2021 (UTC) |
Jessie S programme
Here is the response from TR helpful but also saying error not notable event Copied as easiest way to share content ....
Glad to be of use, and pray never hesitate to ping if so inclined. It seems to me that a theatre or concert programme is as much a published source as a book or newspaper. If you have access to the published programme, then citing the concert details, date, location and publisher will, I think, meet the requirements of WP:V. If you have seen the programme it is ipso facto available somewhere: see WP:SOURCEACCESS. But I take issue with the statement that the composer of Soga's solo was Herbert Howells – he was aged nine in May 1902. And to be frank, I don't think the fact that Soga sang the solo, whoever wrote it, at a church social evening is even faintly noteworthy. Sorry to be a wet blanket. – Tim riley talk 21:35, 1 August 2021 (UTC) Kaybeesquared (talk) 08:20, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
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Hi there, IanTheArchivist, and thanks for creating four well developed biographies of women. It looks as if you should be a member of Women in Red. You can register in the box at the top of the project's main page. Keep up the good work!--Ipigott (talk) 11:21, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
Ipigott Hi Many thanks for your kind words, which are much appreciated. I have taken up your helpful suggestion and joined WiR. Best wishes, Ian
IanTheArchivist (talk) 15:41, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
- Great! So welcome to Women in Red. Good to hear you intend to continue with articles on suffrage and suffragists. If you haven't already done so, you might find it useful to look through our Primer for creating women's biographies. Please let me know if you run into any difficulties or need assistance. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 07:32, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
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Hello Ian. We just talked on the University of Edinbugh zoom call. As discussed, I've recently started an article about my namesake who came from your part of Glasgow and so may be familiar to you. I get up that way myself from time to time too as I have family connections in the area. So, please keep in touch and feel free to ask if you need help with one of your articles.
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Jessie Soga
I think you phoned me at work in connection with this singer. I have tried to return the call several times and found the number engaged. Please could you email me or write to me at work regarding your query? I may not be able to respond before March, but at least your message will be waiting for me. Thank you. Dr McAulay Karen McAulay (talk) 13:28, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Karen
- Thanks for your message and sorry you were unable to get through to me. My landline has been playing up and I have also had some health issues
- Assuimg you read the wikipedia article on Jessie , you will have seen the parallels with Annie and Marjpry which made me keen to draw her career tp your attention
- I would be keen to meet up with you next month to discuss comparisons and differences betwwen the three, and you might be interested to hea r how I came across Jessie and how I have been building up her life story - and of course your own work on Anne and Marjory
- I am also wodering whether you might be willing to consider working with me on an article about Jessie?
- I think such an article would be of interest to many people, and would follow nicely from yout own article
- Email is prorbably the best way for you to contact me
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- Looking foreard to meeting you
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Hello, I'm Kuru. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I noticed that in one of your recent contributions to Jessie M. Soga, you cited a link to a source that may not be reliable. Sources considered unreliable should generally not be used to support statements. Information from an unreliable source can be challenged by other editors and removed. Reliable sources are generally those with a reputation for fact-checking and editorial oversight. Self-published material, user-generated content, and certain other outlets such as blogs, wikis, personal websites, and websites or publications with a poor reputation for fact-checking may not meet these standards. If you are unsure about which sources are appropriate, there is a list of sources that are considered generally reliable. Additionally, some WikiProjects have their own lists of sources that are considered reliable for that particular subtopic. If you are still unsure about a source's reliability, you can ask at the reliable sources noticeboard. Thank you. Sam Kuru (talk) 02:59, 7 May 2026 (UTC)
- Hello Kuru
- Thanks for your message. I verified all the biographical details on the source website by reference to other sources including Wikipedia -and they are totally accurate IanTheArchivist (talk) 03:16, 7 May 2026 (UTC)
- FamousFix is a content farm that copies materials from other websites; there is absolutely no history of reliability that would qualify in WP:RS. They allude to this on their terms page, "Some of the written content available on the Lucy Media Services has generally been made available by Wikipedia". As you may have noticed in your "verification", the list you're referencing is simple copy of each entries Wikipedia page intro, often an older version, and keyed in our own category for "Scottish contraltos". If you're still unclear on why a mirror is not a reliable source, you can read WP:MIRROR. Please re-evaluate and take action. Sam Kuru (talk) 10:59, 7 May 2026 (UTC)
- Ian, I'm still waiting for your response and action. I'm happy to start a discussion at WP:RSN for you, but I'll need more than what appears to be a claim that mirrors are reliable sources since you feel they have they copied the right information from us. I certainly do not want to misrepresent your position, but what you've said above does not seem to be logical.Sam Kuru (talk) 13:13, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
- Hello Kuru
- After spending several hours adding famousfix links to I think seven different wikipedia entries, I was frustrated to see them being removed, so didn't explain my position at all accurately
- What I wanted to say was that I liken the famousfix categories such as Scottish contraltos to a printed anthology-all the contents have appeared in various publications separately, but the anthologist has pulled them all together in one place, The material is not original, but the anthology is. I can't see anywhere else on the internet where any website has performed this service in many entertatinment as well and comprehensively as famousfix. If you know of one that meets acceptable criteria, then I would be very happy to use that. ~2026-28153-69 (talk) 17:17, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
- As noted above, this our data - both the list (scraped from Category:Scottish_contraltos, and the actual data (it's the lead paragraph from each Wikipedia biography when the material was scraped). The site does not give the correct attribution in line, and is a copyright violation. If you're not able to find the list anywhere else on the internet, then that's not a reason to introduce junk sources and contributory copyright violation. Please remove the link. Sam Kuru (talk) 18:33, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
- Now removed ~2026-28153-69 (talk) 04:40, 10 May 2026 (UTC)
- As noted above, this our data - both the list (scraped from Category:Scottish_contraltos, and the actual data (it's the lead paragraph from each Wikipedia biography when the material was scraped). The site does not give the correct attribution in line, and is a copyright violation. If you're not able to find the list anywhere else on the internet, then that's not a reason to introduce junk sources and contributory copyright violation. Please remove the link. Sam Kuru (talk) 18:33, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
- Ian, I'm still waiting for your response and action. I'm happy to start a discussion at WP:RSN for you, but I'll need more than what appears to be a claim that mirrors are reliable sources since you feel they have they copied the right information from us. I certainly do not want to misrepresent your position, but what you've said above does not seem to be logical.Sam Kuru (talk) 13:13, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
- FamousFix is a content farm that copies materials from other websites; there is absolutely no history of reliability that would qualify in WP:RS. They allude to this on their terms page, "Some of the written content available on the Lucy Media Services has generally been made available by Wikipedia". As you may have noticed in your "verification", the list you're referencing is simple copy of each entries Wikipedia page intro, often an older version, and keyed in our own category for "Scottish contraltos". If you're still unclear on why a mirror is not a reliable source, you can read WP:MIRROR. Please re-evaluate and take action. Sam Kuru (talk) 10:59, 7 May 2026 (UTC)
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